osewalrus ([info]osewalrus) wrote,
@ 2006-11-27 17:02:00
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Mr. Lynksis: Trespass Victim or Public Nusiance?
This article in the NYT discusses folks using other people's hot spots for dual use calls.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/27/technology/27wifi.html?_r=1&ref=technology&oref=slogin

Now here is my question. Why is this "stealing wifi," as some folk say? You, the owner of the hotspot, have chosen to attach a device to your network and -- very rudely in my opinion -- blast it at maximum volume to the world. You also decide to keep you system open, rather than closed, creating the impression that you actually _want_ to have people use your hot spot. Simplistic analogies to "if I leave the door open to my house blah blah" don't cut it, because this is not how this stuff works in the real world. There is no physical intrusion, and there are people who blast open networks at maximum volume to facilitate public sharing (I know many in the community wireless movement). To the extent there is an analogy to the physical world, it is more like your apple tree overhangs my property and the street. So I decide to pluck off the ripe apples on my property and eat them, as do folks in the public thoroughfare. Common law has long established that your intrusive apple tree is tresspasing on my property and I can eat the apples. I am not an apple thief; my neighbor is a tresspassing nuisance.

If anything, it is the hotspot operator who is tresspassing into my apartment/house/public thoroughfare, and at a cost to me. My thoughtless neighbor "Mr. Lynksis" confuses my machines that do ad hoc networking by automaticly grabbing the strongest open signal. So not only am I "tresspassing" without my knowledge, but Mr. Lynksis is extruding into MY airpsace and disrupting my home network. I can adjust my network settings to ignore Mr. Lynksis, but why does Mr. Mr. Lynksis the thoughtless neighbor get the free ride presumption? Why don't I get to assume that if Mr. Lynksis is blasting into my apartment or my street, he WANTS me to share. Because if he didn't want me to sahre, he'd change the blasted default power settings or at least set a blinking password.

Mr. Lynksis and his thoughtless buddies also impose a cost for me in network response time. If he is intruding into "my" airspace, then my 802.11 device may experience slow downs due to congestion. Why should I protect Mr. Lyknsis' airspace when he imposes a cost on me?

By contrast, consider the positive benefits of establishing the opposite presumption. Suppose the law establishes that anyone running an open network that can be received outside the hot spot operator's private premises is explicitly inviting use by anyone able to receive the signal using a standard receiver (we will exclude the hot spot owner trying to maintain a proper power level but who "leaks" because I am actively using a sensitive receiver). This creates incentive for hot spot operators to manage their networks efficiently, creating positive externalities. It also allows those in the community wireless movement who actually _wish_ to use offer an open access point to do so, and facilitates use of that open access point.

There is no a priori reason why we can't create laws that require responsible network management, and a number of reasons we should. The primary driver for establishing the "tresspass" rather "public nuisance" presumption seems to flow from ignorant analogies to private property and a deliberate ignorance in refusing to read the bleading manual. I see no reason to reward such ignorance. Alas, as a fair number of judges and legislators fall into the ignorance catagory, we end up with presumptions that reward ignorance and encourage inefficiency.


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[info]redaxe
2006-11-27 11:58 pm UTC (link)
*applause*

Another analogy: we have laws that ban the playing of music at excessive volume. That's because it bothers some people to have to hear the music. But some people ENJOY that music, and appreciate that it's there. I don't doubt that somewhere, there are neighbors whose arrangement is that one supplies music for the other.

Granted, WiFi receivers are not standard human equipment as are ears -- still, once the signal exits the home, it's in the public space, and I find it hard to conceive of something placed into that space as "stealable" provided that it does not deprive its originator of its use. (Differing from physical possessions, such as cars, for example.)

This sounds as if it's an area ready for legal definition, and it would be nice to see it put forth in a way that does not assume criminal behavior on the part of anyone who engages in it. Is there legislation pending at the Federal level, and if so, what's the status and whom should we contact?

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[info]enikoxohaq
2008-07-11 06:05 am UTC (link)
[ APPLAUSE ] [ (music) MUSIC PLAYING (music)(music) ] [ (music) MUSIC PLAYING (music)(music) ] [ APPLAUSE ] Mayor Wynn: SO JADE, IT SAYS YOU'RE TOURING COAST TO COAST.

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[info]vettecat
2006-11-28 05:48 am UTC (link)
Interesting viewpoint. I know someone with a laptop who doesn't pay for net access, but sits in the stairwell and answers e-mail through someone's wifi. That always strikes me as slightly rude, even though the "victim" probably doesn't know the difference.

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[info]zachkessin
2006-11-28 06:32 am UTC (link)
To place a basic level of security on a wifi hub is not hard. If you leave your net open I don't see that you have much call to complain if someone else from time to time borrows some bandwidth. If you don't like it lock down your network, it would take 10-15 minutes.

My home network is actually wide open, but I don't really care because I live in the boonies and if one of my neighbors wants to borrow some bandwith thats OK by me.

I guess in theory someone on a bus going by could get on line for a few seconds but its not enough to worry me.

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[info]louisefebuv
2008-07-16 08:15 pm UTC (link)
Now, I can totally see your case if you jump on someone else's connection and start Bit-Torrenting (you take about thirty of your friends over to the bench with you and start shoving people off of it to accomidate space for your party), but that's not even what we're discussing here.

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Can I check my directions?
[info]sdm
2006-11-28 07:24 pm UTC (link)
I definitely agree with Harold's sentiment. A useful analogy might be, can I check my directions by the light of your porch? Sure, you've turned on your light so you can find the lock to your front door, but if I'm walking by and utilize some of your excess electromagnetic radiation to double check where my friends house is, or what the time is, or just about anything else that might use your front porch light, I'm certainly not trespassing. Even if you see me standing in front of your house reading my direction (i.e., electromagnetic radiation is bouncing from your light, to me, and back into your house), I am still very clearly not trespassing.

So how is it that some people claim that when electromagnetic radiation from your access point is used to check the directions on my computer (and some bounces back to your abode), that I'm trespassing? Is there some sort of legal definition that defining which specific frequencies are allowed to be used in this manner and when the use of unlicensed spectrum is illegal? Are greedy corporations attempting to punish people through extra-legal means? Is law enforcement so out of touch with reality that they don't understand that we pay for both lightbulbs and access points, and we're using the exact same medium when we use both 802.11 and visible light? Since I pay my monthly electrical bill and my lights run off this fee-for-service, can I make everyone close their eyes when they walk by my house to prevent them from trespassing on my light?

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Re: Can I check my directions?
[info]caryabend
2006-11-28 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Tresspassing on my light: I suppose that depends if you're standing on my porch, or on the sidewalk. And it only applies when there's no other light source, unless you're trying to outshine the sun, in which case we have other problems.

Conclusion: I want a flash-dark.

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Common scenario that's happening all over the country every day.
[info]rockrags_us
2008-05-31 02:25 pm UTC (link)
Hi everyone,

When you open up your laptop computer and see four wireless networks displayed as available. You procure one, click Connect, and a few minutes later you're surfing the Web - on somebody else's Internet connection. You might be sitting on your front porch, picking up a neighbor's wi-fi observable, or in a hotel quarter, connecting to the hotel's own wireless network or that of a law firm across the street. Yes, it's a common scenario that's happening all over the country every day...

rockrags.us

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